Hey Kenpo, GREAT THREAD!
The whole utopian world is founded on a shaky foundation. Even in JW speak, it was never utopian when it was supposed to be utopian. Back in the garden of eden there was clearly some dissension up in heaven WAY before Adam and Eve ate the fruit. As long as you have intelligent creatures blessed with the gift of free will NOTHING WILL BE PERFECT. Unless everyone is a preprogrammed robot (a la Stepford Wives or something) there will be no utopia.
What Blues Brother said was right on target............
"If you think about it, it is a materialistic goal . Everthing that money can buy ,and more, given to you on plate ... just so long as you love God enough and keep him happy. If not of course then only a "Second death" is good enough for you , you ungrateful so and so....... You join the mass of "Wicked" that have to be culled so that the rest of them can live in Paradise."